tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post5534548645013932323..comments2010-05-06T21:43:14.958-07:00Comments on stuff we should talk about: who are you talking to?mtdanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07625300607027536408noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-70437520235200838102010-01-06T17:12:01.180-08:002010-01-06T17:12:01.180-08:00Really like the language Jessica uses. Why the ne...Really like the language Jessica uses. Why the need to "self-preserve"? If we could let the Holy Spirit show us the underlying reason behing this I'd bet a lot of our fears would shrink away to nothing.mtdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07625300607027536408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-21486050822908203232010-01-06T15:56:52.754-08:002010-01-06T15:56:52.754-08:00First off, I love what Luke wrote, "righteous...First off, I love what Luke wrote, "righteousness is grown not defended". The need to defend something reveals an obvious lack of peace and trust.<br />"But the wisdom that comes from heavan is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness." James 3:17-18<br />"This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy one of Israel says, 'In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength..." Isaiah 30:15<br />I live in a neighborhood that is 'low income'. Graham and I often discuss the bondage that many people in our neighborhood are in. There is a definite spirit of 'entitlement' and 'poverty' that many people have bought into. It's this "get all you can when you can" mentality (like how I treated icecream in DTS). I agree that "self-righteousness" looks a lot like righteousness, but "doesn't deliver". Kind of like a brand new SUV (or in our case an '73 Landcrusier) in a poor person's yard looks rich, but infact is a huge burden of debt on the owner. I believe as a Christ-follower I'm called to come to the table wealthy. "Be imitators of God as dearly loved children." Ephesians 5:1. If we truly opperate as dearly loved children of the most high king, I think a lot of the pressure to perform and self preserve would dissolve and we would be free to truly "love because he first loved us" I John 4:19<br />I feel the need to bring up again that the reason we feel the need to defend, is because we're afraid. "Such love has no fear because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid it is for fear of punishment, and this shows we have not truly experienced his perfect love." I John 4:18jessmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04898211798914324363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-83596682727354140962010-01-04T19:10:03.744-08:002010-01-04T19:10:03.744-08:00wow luke, you wanna preach at my church?
"rig...wow luke, you wanna preach at my church?<br />"righteousness is grown not defended" Best piece of truth I've heard this year (ok the year is only 4 days old). But really, anytime morality is raised to a place that trumps relationship, I'm gonna have a bad feeling in my gut. <br />"It's the holy spirit's job to convict and God's to judge - the church's job is to love as Jesus loved." I think if we can keep our eye on these job descriptions our valley will experience the love and presence of God like never before.mtdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07625300607027536408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-73356121546824097642010-01-04T12:43:20.536-08:002010-01-04T12:43:20.536-08:00great post Dan.
the duality of our worldview could...great post Dan.<br />the duality of our worldview could also be put into the terms of sacred and secular . its a form of self righteousness. if we can create a clear line of seperation, our guilt is appeased and we feel righteous.<br />I have always believed that righteousness is meant to be grown, not defended. Righteousness is not a princess in a castle, or a kid at school being bullied. It is a fruit grown in the knowing, surrenderring to and following of the Godman Jesus Christ.<br /> <br />When we feel the need to defend righteousness,we may check to see if what we seek to defend is actually righteousness at all. it may have the form, but self righteousness feels like the real thing but it doesn't deliver. Most times we(christians) are just rude, beligerant and ignorant. The moral arguments are made mostly to elevate one side above the other. and it becomes counter productive to true righteousness<br /><br /> in fact the fruit of righteousness is peace and a quiet confidence. (IS 32:17)<br /><br />People were made to decide. to choose. and if western christianity tries to decide everything for the person before they sign up, then where does a relationship with God even fit into the equation. how is righteousness grown in a lab?<br />we have tried to break down knowing God into an equation, a fixed set of parameters of our understanding.<br />we have been trying to clone christians in a sterile lab under a microscope.<br />It's the holy Sprit's job to convict and God's to judge - the church's job is to love as He has loved ...<br /><br /> anyways, just a few thoughts that I didnt spell check or proof read.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924575256272928182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-36315547754052033902010-01-02T18:54:11.749-08:002010-01-02T18:54:11.749-08:00okokCloud Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12933039289237919598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-62566220285031055802010-01-02T15:50:27.636-08:002010-01-02T15:50:27.636-08:00"them" refers to the bull-horns and the ..."them" refers to the bull-horns and the billboards not the righteous.mtdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07625300607027536408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624797093863614508.post-84194257577959437882010-01-01T13:44:30.006-08:002010-01-01T13:44:30.006-08:00Sorry but im not quite getting the "keep the ...Sorry but im not quite getting the "keep the righteous in the church" statment. I don't really have a lot to say about this other than i think your totaly right, I'm about to use a movie again sorry, jesus is like lucy in the narnia books, she is always looking to aslan, whats he say whats does he think we should do. <br /><br />In the latest narnia move towards the end of the movie there agrueing weather to ride out and fight or stay and fortify and fight as the conversation gets more and more heated lucy cuts in and says "You all think there's only two opptions, die in here or die out there" then lucy procides with her idea, GO FIND ASLAN, and they all think shes BLOODY CRAZY!!!! but she goes any way and comes back with him and an army and they win the day.<br /><br />Moral of the story i think my dad is right. ^-^<br /><br /> -Scott-Cloud Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12933039289237919598noreply@blogger.com